Comments on: When DOSsers DOS DOSers - Lycos’ “Make Love Not Spam” ScreenSaver Site Is Latest Victim http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/when-dossers-dos-dosers-lycos-make-love-not-spam-screensaver-site-is-latest-victim/ Internet Safety, Windows Updates, Internet News, and More Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:05:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Deltus http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/when-dossers-dos-dosers-lycos-make-love-not-spam-screensaver-site-is-latest-victim/#comment-598 Deltus Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:00:31 +0000 /?p=195#comment-598 Then the screen saver utility is flawed. Spoofing the source IP is quite easy, and in fact is what the util should be doing. Then the SPAMmers have no idea of where the DOS packets are coming from. Better still would be for the util to use a DFDOS (Distributed & Reflected DOS) approach: ping super-high-bandwidth switches and servers on the Internet with SYN packets with the source IP set to the IP of the SPAMmer, and the shb switch/server will send SYN/ACK packets back to the SPAMmer, only anywhere from 4- to 10-fold the volume. Taking the passive approach to the SPAM problem is akin to telling the schoolchildren to just ignore the huge bully who is terrorizing them, that the bully is just looking for attention. We've got black eyes and bloody noses here! Ghandi's approach of non-violent non-cooperation only works against civilized people who will eventually realize that what they are doing is wrong. This does not apply to SPAMmers. Kick em, and kick em hard! Then the screen saver utility is flawed. Spoofing the source IP is quite easy, and in fact is what the util should be doing. Then the SPAMmers have no idea of where the DOS packets are coming from.

Better still would be for the util to use a DFDOS (Distributed & Reflected DOS) approach: ping super-high-bandwidth switches and servers on the Internet with SYN packets with the source IP set to the IP of the SPAMmer, and the shb switch/server will send SYN/ACK packets back to the SPAMmer, only anywhere from 4- to 10-fold the volume.

Taking the passive approach to the SPAM problem is akin to telling the schoolchildren to just ignore the huge bully who is terrorizing them, that the bully is just looking for attention. We’ve got black eyes and bloody noses here! Ghandi’s approach of non-violent non-cooperation only works against civilized people who will eventually realize that what they are doing is wrong. This does not apply to SPAMmers. Kick em, and kick em hard!

]]> By: Michael B. Johnson http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/when-dossers-dos-dosers-lycos-make-love-not-spam-screensaver-site-is-latest-victim/#comment-597 Michael B. Johnson Thu, 02 Dec 2004 15:45:19 +0000 /?p=195#comment-597 IF only it weren't legal, it would certainly be worth doing - even if they tried to target each individual. At a certain critical mass of users, it would be difficult to combat - as they themselves well know. You probably recall that Spammers have, on occasion, been responsible for zombie DOS attacks (not just with e-mail) but at the TCP/IP level. IF only it weren’t legal, it would certainly be worth doing - even if they tried to target each individual. At a certain critical mass of users, it would be difficult to combat - as they themselves well know. You probably recall that Spammers have, on occasion, been responsible for zombie DOS attacks (not just with e-mail) but at the TCP/IP level.

]]> By: William Peckham http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/when-dossers-dos-dosers-lycos-make-love-not-spam-screensaver-site-is-latest-victim/#comment-596 William Peckham Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:42:01 +0000 /?p=195#comment-596 Ah, but I can change my IP address within a few minutes, and I can do without if with MUCH less inconvenience than dealing with all of that SPAM! For my money, give me any and every tool to discourage and identify the spammers, then throw them in jail and give me their machines! ;-) Ah, but I can change my IP address within a few minutes, and I can do without if with MUCH less inconvenience than dealing with all of that SPAM! For my money, give me any and every tool to discourage and identify the spammers, then throw them in jail and give me their machines! ;-)

]]> By: Lockergnome's Windows Fanatics http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/when-dossers-dos-dosers-lycos-make-love-not-spam-screensaver-site-is-latest-victim/#comment-595 Lockergnome's Windows Fanatics Thu, 02 Dec 2004 07:24:02 +0000 /?p=195#comment-595 <strong>When DOSsers DOS DOSers - Lycos? ?Make Love Not Spam? Windows ScreenSaver Site Is Latest Victim</strong> You just knew it had to happen, right? You can?t take aim at a group of spammers and just expect them to sit there quietly and take it on the chin. At least, not if you have half a brain.... When DOSsers DOS DOSers - Lycos? ?Make Love Not Spam? Windows ScreenSaver Site Is Latest Victim
You just knew it had to happen, right? You can?t take aim at a group of spammers and just expect them to sit there quietly and take it on the chin. At least, not if you have half a brain….

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