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	<title>Comments on: Transferring Domains No Longer Requires Consent - Registrars Advise That You Lock Your Domain</title>
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		<title>By: ScanIAm</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/transferring-domains-no-longer-requires-consent-registrars-advise-that-you-lock-your-domain#comment-2513</link>
		<dc:creator>ScanIAm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 05:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, Actually no.  I'm bored, however, so I googled my name and found that you replied.

Here's the issue:

a) New company can take the domain based on your 'word' that the domain belongs to you.  Domains will be hijacked and clicking on microsoft.com, google.com or theinternetpatrol.com will link you to porn sites.
b)  Enforce absolute permission for moving of domains.  In that case, short of you physically walking into the registrar's office, they can claim that you aren't who you say you are and refuse to transfer the domain.  
c)  Use a Carrier Command model where all domain registrars must respond within a set amount of time to a request.  If you decide to move your domain, you request it, and wait.  If you are accepted, you get to move it after 5-10 days.  If not, you can appeal.  

Before you complain about a 5-10 day wait, remember that if I can impersonate you, I can steal your domain for 48 hours or more and you can't do anything about it.

I don't work for ICANN, I used to work for people who dealt with moving Tollfree numbers around from carrier to carrier and this same problem exists there.  It's all well and good to while from your point of view, but remember...since this site is theinternetpatrol...that there are malicious people out ther who would be more than happy to screw you over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, Actually no.  I&#8217;m bored, however, so I googled my name and found that you replied.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the issue:</p>
<p>a) New company can take the domain based on your &#8216;word&#8217; that the domain belongs to you.  Domains will be hijacked and clicking on microsoft.com, google.com or theinternetpatrol.com will link you to porn sites.<br />
b)  Enforce absolute permission for moving of domains.  In that case, short of you physically walking into the registrar&#8217;s office, they can claim that you aren&#8217;t who you say you are and refuse to transfer the domain.<br />
c)  Use a Carrier Command model where all domain registrars must respond within a set amount of time to a request.  If you decide to move your domain, you request it, and wait.  If you are accepted, you get to move it after 5-10 days.  If not, you can appeal.  </p>
<p>Before you complain about a 5-10 day wait, remember that if I can impersonate you, I can steal your domain for 48 hours or more and you can&#8217;t do anything about it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t work for ICANN, I used to work for people who dealt with moving Tollfree numbers around from carrier to carrier and this same problem exists there.  It&#8217;s all well and good to while from your point of view, but remember&#8230;since this site is theinternetpatrol&#8230;that there are malicious people out ther who would be more than happy to screw you over.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/transferring-domains-no-longer-requires-consent-registrars-advise-that-you-lock-your-domain#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, I guess, ScanIAm. Of course, you can't even leave a name and Web site reference, so looks like this is more of a drive-by shooting from the hip than anything else. Have &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; been involved with domain name registrars for all this time, then, or are you an apologist for ICANN?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, I guess, ScanIAm. Of course, you can&#8217;t even leave a name and Web site reference, so looks like this is more of a drive-by shooting from the hip than anything else. Have <i>you</i> been involved with domain name registrars for all this time, then, or are you an apologist for ICANN?</p>
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		<title>By: ScanIAm</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/transferring-domains-no-longer-requires-consent-registrars-advise-that-you-lock-your-domain#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>ScanIAm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Taylor said "Nice writeup. I am constantly amazed at how poorly ICANN is managing the world of domain names, and Iâ€™ve been around in the domain world for, um, 15 years or so. "

I'm constantly amazed at how less than helpful people are.  

This is a legitimate way to deal with the issue and closely mirrors the solution that phone companies use to deal with toll and tollfree numbers.  Greater minds have spent much longer than your 15 years working on this issue and this method is the best there is.  Either post a better way or go back to surfing pr0n.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Taylor said &#8220;Nice writeup. I am constantly amazed at how poorly ICANN is managing the world of domain names, and Iâ€™ve been around in the domain world for, um, 15 years or so. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m constantly amazed at how less than helpful people are.  </p>
<p>This is a legitimate way to deal with the issue and closely mirrors the solution that phone companies use to deal with toll and tollfree numbers.  Greater minds have spent much longer than your 15 years working on this issue and this method is the best there is.  Either post a better way or go back to surfing pr0n.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slamming probably isn't going to be a large problem.  The gaining registrar must still send the Initial Authorization for Registrar Transfer to the domain holder.  If they reject it or don't respond, the transfer is cancelled.  Even if they forged the approval, the losing registrar will still send the Confirmation of Registrar Transfer Request to the domain holder.  The domain holder can then deny the transfer.  The caveat is if this all happens while the domain holder can't get to their email or the contact information is incorrect.  Then the request would time out and the domain would transfer.

In the end, the lesson is:  lock your domain for TLDs that support it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slamming probably isn&#8217;t going to be a large problem.  The gaining registrar must still send the Initial Authorization for Registrar Transfer to the domain holder.  If they reject it or don&#8217;t respond, the transfer is cancelled.  Even if they forged the approval, the losing registrar will still send the Confirmation of Registrar Transfer Request to the domain holder.  The domain holder can then deny the transfer.  The caveat is if this all happens while the domain holder can&#8217;t get to their email or the contact information is incorrect.  Then the request would time out and the domain would transfer.</p>
<p>In the end, the lesson is:  lock your domain for TLDs that support it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice writeup. I am constantly amazed at how poorly ICANN is managing the world of domain names, and I've been around in the domain world for, um, 15 years or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice writeup. I am constantly amazed at how poorly ICANN is managing the world of domain names, and I&#8217;ve been around in the domain world for, um, 15 years or so.</p>
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