Comments on: The ISPs Are Revolting! More ISPs Blocking Non-Native VoIP http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/the-isps-are-revolting-more-isps-blocking-non-native-voip/ Internet Safety, Windows Updates, Internet News, and More Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:50:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Tom Woolf http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/the-isps-are-revolting-more-isps-blocking-non-native-voip/#comment-1536 Tom Woolf Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:48:08 +0000 /?p=498#comment-1536 Let's see - I have a 9 or 10 email addresses that I use for various purposes. With the exception of two I set up with my ISP (RoadRunner), all are from free email services Hotmail, Myway, Gmail, and Yahoo. Some are work related, others keep spam from my real email addresses. So if the ISPs can block VoIP signals legally, why can't they block all email not from RoadRunner? Conceivably, there could be a lot of bandwidth taken up by downloading and uploading email. What about surfing on sites not related to TimeWarner (like this one)? That could be a lot of bandwidth, too. So, sic the regulators on the scum blocking legitimate traffic such as VoIP. Let’s see - I have a 9 or 10 email addresses that I use for various purposes. With the exception of two I set up with my ISP (RoadRunner), all are from free email services Hotmail, Myway, Gmail, and Yahoo. Some are work related, others keep spam from my real email addresses.

So if the ISPs can block VoIP signals legally, why can’t they block all email not from RoadRunner? Conceivably, there could be a lot of bandwidth taken up by downloading and uploading email. What about surfing on sites not related to TimeWarner (like this one)? That could be a lot of bandwidth, too.

So, sic the regulators on the scum blocking legitimate traffic such as VoIP.

]]> By: ZacOz http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/the-isps-are-revolting-more-isps-blocking-non-native-voip/#comment-1531 ZacOz Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:36:11 +0000 /?p=498#comment-1531 The ISP's should price their net connections with usage limits / excess charges sufficient to cover their expenses. Discounts or limit increases could be offered for customers who bundle their Net Connection & VOIP services from the ISP. If they are using bandwidth as an excuse, one presumes they are offering unlimited bandwidth accounts. However if this is the case then it is hardly unlimited if all high bandwidth activities are blocked. While it currently seems popular, blocking other providers VOIP data, is not going to be an effective long term strategy for these businesses. This sort of blocking will either die out, or the ISP's concerned will die out when their customers get fed up and go elsewhere. As an aside Aunty, I think your statement: "Does this mean that at some point that VoIP could be the camel’s nose under the tent which leads to regulation of the Internet?" is a bit inaccurate. It's not a case of the internet being regulated it is more a case of the ISP's being regulated. The internet itself cannot easily be regulated due to the extensive number of countries and legal jurisdictions involved. The ISP's however can be significantly regulated by the authorities presiding over their jurisdiction. One cannot state that the internet has been regulated just because legislation or regulation is implemented in the US. OK, will get down off my "the US is not and does not rule the World" soapbox. The ISP’s should price their net connections with usage limits / excess charges sufficient to cover their expenses. Discounts or limit increases could be offered for customers who bundle their Net Connection & VOIP services from the ISP.

If they are using bandwidth as an excuse, one presumes they are offering unlimited bandwidth accounts. However if this is the case then it is hardly unlimited if all high bandwidth activities are blocked.
While it currently seems popular, blocking other providers VOIP data, is not going to be an effective long term strategy for these businesses. This sort of blocking will either die out, or the ISP’s concerned will die out when their customers get fed up and go elsewhere.

As an aside Aunty, I think your statement:
“Does this mean that at some point that VoIP could be the camel’s nose under the tent which leads to regulation of the Internet?”
is a bit inaccurate. It’s not a case of the internet being regulated it is more a case of the ISP’s being regulated. The internet itself cannot easily be regulated due to the extensive number of countries and legal jurisdictions involved. The ISP’s however can be significantly regulated by the authorities presiding over their jurisdiction. One cannot state that the internet has been regulated just because legislation or regulation is implemented in the US.
OK, will get down off my “the US is not and does not rule the World” soapbox.

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