Comments on: Proposed Law Would Require ISPs to Forward All Pornographic Images of Children - Including Drawings - to Central Agency http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/proposed-law-would-require-isps-to-forward-all-pornographic-images-of-children-including-drawings-to-central-agency Internet Safety, Windows Updates, Internet News, and More Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:52:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: oi_ginger http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/proposed-law-would-require-isps-to-forward-all-pornographic-images-of-children-including-drawings-to-central-agency#comment-267107 oi_ginger Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:37:19 +0000 http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/?p=1506#comment-267107 The text of the bill states that the ISP has to report any instance that they obtain knowledge of but the bill itself does not place a requirement on the ISP to monitor everything that is posted or sent on every account. I'm guessing that every ISP would end up with hotline and webforms where violations would be reported by users so they can forward the information on to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. An ISP can only be prosecuted and fined if it can be proven that they were aware of the illegal activity and they did not report it. Also, when it comes to Christine's family photos, not only would the ISP have to be made aware of the photos (someone would have to contact the ISP and inform them of your email content), they would also have to prove that the depictions were intended as pornographic as already defined in US code. If you want to view the code yourself you can see it listed on Cornell's website: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ Look under title 18 in sections 2251, 2251A, 2252, 2252A, 2252B, 2260, and 1466A. The text of the bill states that the ISP has to report any instance that they obtain knowledge of but the bill itself does not place a requirement on the ISP to monitor everything that is posted or sent on every account. I’m guessing that every ISP would end up with hotline and webforms where violations would be reported by users so they can forward the information on to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. An ISP can only be prosecuted and fined if it can be proven that they were aware of the illegal activity and they did not report it. Also, when it comes to Christine’s family photos, not only would the ISP have to be made aware of the photos (someone would have to contact the ISP and inform them of your email content), they would also have to prove that the depictions were intended as pornographic as already defined in US code. If you want to view the code yourself you can see it listed on Cornell’s website: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/
Look under title 18 in sections 2251, 2251A, 2252, 2252A, 2252B, 2260, and 1466A.

]]> By: Jim http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/proposed-law-would-require-isps-to-forward-all-pornographic-images-of-children-including-drawings-to-central-agency#comment-43726 Jim Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:56:22 +0000 http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/?p=1506#comment-43726 Constitutional issues aside, the basic idea does not seem to be workable. These DNA like “unique identification numbers” "generated from the data contained in the image file" sounds like a CRC or other checksum. It would be trivial to bypass this by modifying the image slightly. Constitutional issues aside, the basic idea does not seem to be workable. These DNA like “unique identification numbers” “generated from the data contained in the image file” sounds like a CRC or other checksum. It would be trivial to bypass this by modifying the image slightly.

]]> By: Christine http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/proposed-law-would-require-isps-to-forward-all-pornographic-images-of-children-including-drawings-to-central-agency#comment-43591 Christine Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:50:34 +0000 http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/?p=1506#comment-43591 Whats going to happen say a Naturist family (such as mine)comes back from a holiday with non sexual photos of their children - the wife or husband emails the photos to their partner (as I have done) & they are intercepted & someone decides thay are pornagraphic? Whats going to happen say a Naturist family (such as mine)comes back from a holiday with non sexual photos of their children - the wife or husband emails the photos to their partner (as I have done) & they are intercepted & someone decides thay are pornagraphic?

]]> By: bandit http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/proposed-law-would-require-isps-to-forward-all-pornographic-images-of-children-including-drawings-to-central-agency#comment-43236 bandit Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:02:50 +0000 http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/?p=1506#comment-43236 As I understand it, this would then violate the concept of "common carrier" which means that the ISP, like the phone company, does not look at the data that it carries. There is another implication - the ISP would be required to look at *every* jpeg, gif, etc that passes thru. Ignoring the issue of this would be a great gig for a child sex preditor, the amount of time (thus people) is staggering for any given ISP. BOttom line - this has serious constitutional and practical issues. The concept sounds fine, but it is unworkable. The baiting of child preditors in cghatrooms seems to be a much better, and practical method. It also does not create unconstitutional issues. As I understand it, this would then violate the concept of “common carrier” which means that the ISP, like the phone company, does not look at the data that it carries.

There is another implication - the ISP would be required to look at *every* jpeg, gif, etc that passes thru. Ignoring the issue of this would be a great gig for a child sex preditor, the amount of time (thus people) is staggering for any given ISP.

BOttom line - this has serious constitutional and practical issues.

The concept sounds fine, but it is unworkable.

The baiting of child preditors in cghatrooms seems to be a much better, and practical method. It also does not create unconstitutional issues.

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