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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Now Owns Patent on the &#8220;double click&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft wins patent for handheld click
Updated: 2:11 p.m. ET June 04, 2004
REUTERS
WASHINGTON 
- Computer users with itchy trigger fingers take note: The next time you open a software program with two quick clicks on a handheld computer you may be engaging in a process patented by Microsoft Corp.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on April 27 granted a patent for a â€śtime based hardware button for application launchâ€? in which a click of a button can start different programs if it is clicked once, twice or held down for several seconds.
That process is familiar to countless computer users who have double-clicked their way through Microsoftâ€™s Windows operating system, as well as anyone whoâ€™s tried to set the time on a digital watch.
(MSNBC is a Microsoft - NBC joint venture.)
Mouse-wielding computer users need not worry, as the patent only applies to handheld computers that run Microsoftâ€™s PocketPC software -- specifically the method of bringing up different features depending on how many times a button is pressed.
But the application highlights shortcomings in the Patent and Trademark Office, where examiners short on time and resources are hard-pressed to root out earlier examples of similar technology, said San Francisco patent consultant Gregory Aharonian.
â€śUnless the examiner had a patent or journal article in front of them, itâ€™s going to be hardâ€? to reject the application, he said. â€śThe examiners need the pieces of paper. Theyâ€™re like the IRS.â€?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft wins patent for handheld click<br />
Updated: 2:11 p.m. ET June 04, 2004<br />
REUTERS<br />
WASHINGTON<br />
- Computer users with itchy trigger fingers take note: The next time you open a software program with two quick clicks on a handheld computer you may be engaging in a process patented by Microsoft Corp.</p>
<p>The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on April 27 granted a patent for a â€śtime based hardware button for application launchâ€? in which a click of a button can start different programs if it is clicked once, twice or held down for several seconds.<br />
That process is familiar to countless computer users who have double-clicked their way through Microsoftâ€™s Windows operating system, as well as anyone whoâ€™s tried to set the time on a digital watch.<br />
(MSNBC is a Microsoft - NBC joint venture.)<br />
Mouse-wielding computer users need not worry, as the patent only applies to handheld computers that run Microsoftâ€™s PocketPC software &#8212; specifically the method of bringing up different features depending on how many times a button is pressed.<br />
But the application highlights shortcomings in the Patent and Trademark Office, where examiners short on time and resources are hard-pressed to root out earlier examples of similar technology, said San Francisco patent consultant Gregory Aharonian.<br />
â€śUnless the examiner had a patent or journal article in front of them, itâ€™s going to be hardâ€? to reject the application, he said. â€śThe examiners need the pieces of paper. Theyâ€™re like the IRS.â€?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a patent holder to be able to claim protection of a given intelectual property they must fight all infringements against it. If an earlier use of the double-click exists but is consistantly NOT defended the right is eventually forfeit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a patent holder to be able to claim protection of a given intelectual property they must fight all infringements against it. If an earlier use of the double-click exists but is consistantly NOT defended the right is eventually forfeit.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurubob</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurubob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2004 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you figure that?  "extending the functionality of application buttons on a limited resource computing device" certainly applies to a mouse, does it not?  In my opinion, a mouse is a limited resource computing device and I'm sure it could be argued as such successfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you figure that?  &#8220;extending the functionality of application buttons on a limited resource computing device&#8221; certainly applies to a mouse, does it not?  In my opinion, a mouse is a limited resource computing device and I&#8217;m sure it could be argued as such successfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Dodger</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Dodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This patent only applies to handheld computers which run Microsoft's PocketPC software -- specifically the method of bringing up different features depending on how many times a button is pressed. The patent does not affect desktop computers at all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This patent only applies to handheld computers which run Microsoft&#8217;s PocketPC software &#8212; specifically the method of bringing up different features depending on how many times a button is pressed. The patent does not affect desktop computers at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Fried</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Fried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd bet Microsoft would not care whether the patent gets voided or not.  Try thinking out of the box here - with all the crazy patents getting passed, it makes sense to be defensive and try to get patents first on technology you need, before someone else does (you do know about all the patents that have been getting passed recently, don't you?).  Microsoft didn't start the patent wars, and they've been burned enough to take an offensive defense; it makes good business sense.

Now, if they start suing everyone that double-clicks, well, then you can complain, but that hasn't happened.

You can bet that if they don't do it, someone else eventually will, and will sue them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d bet Microsoft would not care whether the patent gets voided or not.  Try thinking out of the box here - with all the crazy patents getting passed, it makes sense to be defensive and try to get patents first on technology you need, before someone else does (you do know about all the patents that have been getting passed recently, don&#8217;t you?).  Microsoft didn&#8217;t start the patent wars, and they&#8217;ve been burned enough to take an offensive defense; it makes good business sense.</p>
<p>Now, if they start suing everyone that double-clicks, well, then you can complain, but that hasn&#8217;t happened.</p>
<p>You can bet that if they don&#8217;t do it, someone else eventually will, and will sue them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, if prior public work ("prior art") can be proven, the patent is void. See http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/priorart/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if prior public work (&#8221;prior art&#8221;) can be proven, the patent is void. See <a href="http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/priorart/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/priorart/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These  Patent Office are even crazier. Did you know they even patented an "immortality ring?" 
Yup: some gut called Alex Chiu submitted a description for a "ring with magnetic devices" and... gues what? it was granted! go here: http://164.195.100.11/netahtml/search-bool.html and search for patent number 5,989,178

(the guy's site explain the rest: http://www.alexchiu.com/ )

Sooo yes: what we have to find now is what kind of thing they smoke everyday.

(at least patent guys are not part of  M$'s plan to take over the world: they are simply dumb enough to accept anything coming their way)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These  Patent Office are even crazier. Did you know they even patented an &#8220;immortality ring?&#8221;<br />
Yup: some gut called Alex Chiu submitted a description for a &#8220;ring with magnetic devices&#8221; and&#8230; gues what? it was granted! go here: <a href="http://164.195.100.11/netahtml/search-bool.html" rel="nofollow">http://164.195.100.11/netahtml/search-bool.html</a> and search for patent number 5,989,178</p>
<p>(the guy&#8217;s site explain the rest: <a href="http://www.alexchiu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexchiu.com/</a> )</p>
<p>Sooo yes: what we have to find now is what kind of thing they smoke everyday.</p>
<p>(at least patent guys are not part of  M$&#8217;s plan to take over the world: they are simply dumb enough to accept anything coming their way)</p>
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		<title>By: Mavrick</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mavrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 06:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! THey may have done it first but if they didn't get the Patent...  Classic example: Alexander Graham Bell, didn't actually invent the Telephone First.  Elisha Gray was slightly ahead but didn't get the patent in early enough.
History can be made and re-written using the patent system.  I agree utterly stupid, as bad as British Telecom trying to copyright the hyperlink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! THey may have done it first but if they didn&#8217;t get the Patent&#8230;  Classic example: Alexander Graham Bell, didn&#8217;t actually invent the Telephone First.  Elisha Gray was slightly ahead but didn&#8217;t get the patent in early enough.<br />
History can be made and re-written using the patent system.  I agree utterly stupid, as bad as British Telecom trying to copyright the hyperlink.</p>
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		<title>By: Aunty Spam</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/microsoft-now-owns-patent-on-the-double-click#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Aunty Spam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 02:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;Aunty, any suggestions on who to complain to about this ridiculousness? The US Patent office only offers generic email addresses of the auto-responder sort.&lt;&lt;&lt;   Dear Gentle Bastardo,  Because the Patent and Trademark Office is a federal fiasc...er..agency, a good place to start would be by speaking to the point persons at the offices of your Federal congressmen and senator.  It is interesting to note that the Federal Trade Commission has just this week reaffirmed their commitment to facilitating some change in the patent process because, according to FTC Comissioner Mozelle Thompson, of the anti-competitive results which occur as a result of the granting of some of these patents.  (Although Aunty is sure that what he really meant to say was "Just what are they smoking???")

BBC News just covered the FTC's position, and the formation of a new working group to look at the issues here:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3722509.stm".

Given this, you may want to contact the FTC, too.

Finally, Aunty would like to commend you for your desire to get involved.

And remember, a click in time...could end up costing you several thousand dollars.

Kissy kissy,

Aunty

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>>Aunty, any suggestions on who to complain to about this ridiculousness? The US Patent office only offers generic email addresses of the auto-responder sort.< <<   Dear Gentle Bastardo,  Because the Patent and Trademark Office is a federal fiasc...er..agency, a good place to start would be by speaking to the point persons at the offices of your Federal congressmen and senator.  It is interesting to note that the Federal Trade Commission has just this week reaffirmed their commitment to facilitating some change in the patent process because, according to FTC Comissioner Mozelle Thompson, of the anti-competitive results which occur as a result of the granting of some of these patents.  (Although Aunty is sure that what he really meant to say was "Just what are they smoking???")</p>
<p>BBC News just covered the FTC's position, and the formation of a new working group to look at the issues here:  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3722509.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3722509.stm&#8220;.</p>
<p>Given this, you may want to contact the FTC, too.</p>
<p>Finally, Aunty would like to commend you for your desire to get involved.</p>
<p>And remember, a click in time&#8230;could end up costing you several thousand dollars.</p>
<p>Kissy kissy,</p>
<p>Aunty</p>
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		<title>By: Martyn Tidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martyn Tidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 02:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one's easy to fight. A number of non-MS OSs that predate Windows used double-click: eg Mac, Lisa, GEM, Amiga Workbench, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one&#8217;s easy to fight. A number of non-MS OSs that predate Windows used double-click: eg Mac, Lisa, GEM, Amiga Workbench, etc.</p>
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