Comments on: How to Go from Spamming to Prison in 6 Short Months http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/ Internet Safety, Windows Updates, Internet News, and More Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:33:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Timmer http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2525 Timmer Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:48:07 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2525 Wow. The mind boggles at the thought of someone whose business model includes theft and trespass and considers it "legitimate". Wow. The mind boggles at the thought of someone whose business model includes theft and trespass and considers it “legitimate”.

]]> By: peter moshou http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2521 peter moshou Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:59:20 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2521 yes. a misdemeanor that doesn't ruin your life as mine as now been yes. a misdemeanor that doesn’t ruin your life as mine as now been

]]> By: Timmer http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2520 Timmer Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:13:07 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2520 So, you *don't* admit to fraud, but you do admit to trespass and theft of service? So, you *don’t* admit to fraud, but you do admit to trespass and theft of service?

]]> By: peter moshou http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2519 peter moshou Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:35:35 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2519 No Timmer you have it backwards.I admit to spamming.What i'm saying is that there was no fraud.I was running a legitimate business with 20 employees.All this law does is take common law trespass and theft of services, which are both class B misdemeanors punishable by no more than 90 days MAXIMUM(first offense would get you a fine) and turn it into a 3 year federal felony. No Timmer you have it backwards.I admit to spamming.What i’m saying is that there was no fraud.I was running a legitimate business with 20 employees.All this law does is take common law trespass and theft of services, which are both class B misdemeanors punishable by no more than 90 days MAXIMUM(first offense would get you a fine) and turn it into a 3 year federal felony.

]]> By: Timmer http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2517 Timmer Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:25:16 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2517 The heading of that section reads "Sec. 1037. Fraud and related activity in connection with electronic mail". So you won't admit to spamming, but you will admit to committing fraud, trespass, and theft of service, all because of the "anti-commerze netnazis" who are trying to stop your "ledjimit bidness". This is sooo Rule 3 in action. The heading of that section reads “Sec. 1037. Fraud and related activity in connection with electronic mail”.

So you won’t admit to spamming, but you will admit to committing fraud, trespass, and theft of service, all because of the “anti-commerze netnazis” who are trying to stop your “ledjimit bidness”. This is sooo Rule 3 in action.

]]> By: peter moshou http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2411 peter moshou Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:25:19 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2411 "Florida spammer Peter Moshou just might beg to differ." Wrong. i wasn't arrested for spamming at all .... the staute of the can spam which i have decided to plead guilty to (not been found guilty of) does not state the word "unsolicited" anywhere and shouldn't even be in this bill. It is just a way for corporations to stop the average man from making money in "their" world. http://www.spamlaws.com/federal/108s877.shtml `(a) IN GENERAL- Whoever, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowingly-- `(1) accesses a protected computer without authorization, and intentionally initiates the transmission of multiple commercial electronic mail messages from or through such computer or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b). “Florida spammer Peter Moshou just might beg to differ.”
Wrong. i wasn’t arrested for spamming at all …. the staute of the can spam which i have decided to plead guilty to (not been found guilty of) does not state the word “unsolicited” anywhere and shouldn’t even be in this bill. It is just a way for corporations to stop the average man from making money in “their” world.

http://www.spamlaws.com/federal/108s877.shtml

`(a) IN GENERAL- Whoever, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowingly–

`(1) accesses a protected computer without authorization, and intentionally initiates the transmission of multiple commercial electronic mail messages from or through such computer or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

]]> By: Timmer http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2213 Timmer Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:01:13 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2213 I'll celebrate if Moshou actually *gets* 3 years in prison and a $350000 fine. Phoenix Avatar (Daniel Lin, et al) got *no* jail time and a $230000 fine, which was limited to their available cash (app $20K). If that's any indicator, Peter Moshou can expect to be rapped firmly upon each wrist. Meanwhile, Scott Richter, Eddy Marin, Andrew Westmoreland, and Atriks spam merrily away. BTW, it is worth noting that the Earthlink judgement against Carmack was pre-CANSPAM,and when he was later convicted on criminal charges, it was for fraud under NY state law. I’ll celebrate if Moshou actually *gets* 3 years in prison and a $350000 fine. Phoenix Avatar (Daniel Lin, et al) got *no* jail time and a $230000 fine, which was limited to their available cash (app $20K). If that’s any indicator, Peter Moshou can expect to be rapped firmly upon each wrist. Meanwhile, Scott Richter, Eddy Marin, Andrew Westmoreland, and Atriks spam merrily away.

BTW, it is worth noting that the Earthlink judgement against Carmack was pre-CANSPAM,and when he was later convicted on criminal charges, it was for fraud under NY state law.

]]> By: Jonathan Murray http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-go-from-spamming-to-prison-in-6-short-months/#comment-2100 Jonathan Murray Fri, 01 Jul 2005 04:11:29 +0000 /?p=794#comment-2100 Aunty... I filter through 100 spam emails a day, and I know you're fighting an even bigger load. I have but one question: Where's our cut? Aunty…
I filter through 100 spam emails a day, and I know you’re fighting an even bigger load. I have but one question:

Where’s our cut?

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