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	<title>Comments on: Blue Frog Not Only Spams Webforms, It&#8217;s &#8220;Blurry Hashed&#8221; for Extra Inaccuracy</title>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-not-only-spams-webforms-its-blurry-hashed-for-extra-inaccuracy/#comment-4344</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 06:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue frog reaches spammers by ignoring spoofed reply addresses and instead sending the message to the product sites either promoted by the spammer or owned by the spammer.  This innocent site isn't all that innocent.  They either are the spammer or have hired the spammer.  Either way, the owner of the site now has the messgae to only use clean mail lists and spammers that have a clean mail list.  To do otherwise results in a bunch of opt out requests on the webforms.

In a nutshell, it is working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue frog reaches spammers by ignoring spoofed reply addresses and instead sending the message to the product sites either promoted by the spammer or owned by the spammer.  This innocent site isn&#8217;t all that innocent.  They either are the spammer or have hired the spammer.  Either way, the owner of the site now has the messgae to only use clean mail lists and spammers that have a clean mail list.  To do otherwise results in a bunch of opt out requests on the webforms.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, it is working.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 03:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If a telemarketer calls you, over and over...And if you...throw through their window...You have broken the law."

But I'm not throwing things though their window.  They're making one phone call to me.  I'm making one phone call to them.  They're leaving one electronic message on my system, I'm leaving one electronic message on their system.  Perfectly equitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a telemarketer calls you, over and over&#8230;And if you&#8230;throw through their window&#8230;You have broken the law.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not throwing things though their window.  They&#8217;re making one phone call to me.  I&#8217;m making one phone call to them.  They&#8217;re leaving one electronic message on my system, I&#8217;m leaving one electronic message on their system.  Perfectly equitable.</p>
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		<title>By: js9</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-not-only-spams-webforms-its-blurry-hashed-for-extra-inaccuracy/#comment-4317</link>
		<dc:creator>js9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 20:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUMMARY

Blue works.
Blue is legal.

DETAILS:

Before signing up I was getting 20-30 spams each day. Worst yet, I was getting the same BigPenis spam multiple times each day.  After signing up with Blue, I get around 5 spams a day.
Sending 1 opt out request for each BigPenis email I receive is  both legal and moral. The various anti-spam laws passed say that I have the right to opt out.
The spammer getting mad at Blue and attacking Blue is proof positive that Blue works.  I hope that this recent spammer attack against Blue will backfire against the spammer.  More publicity for Blue = more opt out requests.  God bless Blue.  Rot in Hell BigPenis spammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUMMARY</p>
<p>Blue works.<br />
Blue is legal.</p>
<p>DETAILS:</p>
<p>Before signing up I was getting 20-30 spams each day. Worst yet, I was getting the same BigPenis spam multiple times each day.  After signing up with Blue, I get around 5 spams a day.<br />
Sending 1 opt out request for each BigPenis email I receive is  both legal and moral. The various anti-spam laws passed say that I have the right to opt out.<br />
The spammer getting mad at Blue and attacking Blue is proof positive that Blue works.  I hope that this recent spammer attack against Blue will backfire against the spammer.  More publicity for Blue = more opt out requests.  God bless Blue.  Rot in Hell BigPenis spammers.</p>
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		<title>By: PAStheLoD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAStheLoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 14:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't care, if there may be a few so called innocent third parties. BlueFrog is doing something, and it's far better, than doing nothing.

And what about spamming the sites.. not the opt-out ones, I mean.

Govs do NO THING.. so we're not dumb sheep after all, spam the hell out of spammers.. or if you have better idea, don't hold back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care, if there may be a few so called innocent third parties. BlueFrog is doing something, and it&#8217;s far better, than doing nothing.</p>
<p>And what about spamming the sites.. not the opt-out ones, I mean.</p>
<p>Govs do NO THING.. so we&#8217;re not dumb sheep after all, spam the hell out of spammers.. or if you have better idea, don&#8217;t hold back.</p>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
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		<dc:creator>lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 14:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol,

anyone who spams me because Im on any list will find themselves on the *wrong* side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol,</p>
<p>anyone who spams me because Im on any list will find themselves on the *wrong* side.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-not-only-spams-webforms-its-blurry-hashed-for-extra-inaccuracy/#comment-4281</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 04:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been with BlueSecurity for about 2 weeks.  I's been fascinating.  My SPAM went up from about 10/day to 40/day.  Then I started getting the threats from SPAMmers.  Then it all stopped.  Down to about 2 SPAMs/day now.  FOrtunately, Yahoo catches all of the SPAM e-mails so it doesn't effect me at all.  Let the SPAMmers spend all of their time sending angry SPAMs to my SPAM folder.  One click delets them all!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been with BlueSecurity for about 2 weeks.  I&#8217;s been fascinating.  My SPAM went up from about 10/day to 40/day.  Then I started getting the threats from SPAMmers.  Then it all stopped.  Down to about 2 SPAMs/day now.  FOrtunately, Yahoo catches all of the SPAM e-mails so it doesn&#8217;t effect me at all.  Let the SPAMmers spend all of their time sending angry SPAMs to my SPAM folder.  One click delets them all!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Death to Spammers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Death to Spammers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell is wrong with all of you Blue Frog lemmings? Don't you CARE that you are doing something ILLEGAL?

If a telemarketer calls you, over and over, even if it's collect and they somehow force you to accept the charges, you are not allowed to go to their home or office and trash the place.   You are not allowed to go to their home or office and throw a "take me off your list" note through their window.  It doesn't matter if you throw only one note per call you've received.  And if you do it as part of a mob, each throwing one note per call through their window, and you damage their house, or make it impossible for  others to get in or out of the building, guess what?  &lt;b&gt;You&lt;/b&gt; have broken the law.   

Now in the case of Blue Fog, you bet that what you are taking part in is a DDOS, and you bet that IT IS ILLEGAL!

Here is the Federal law making it illegal:

"Title 18 U.S.C. 1030(5)(A) states:

"through means of a computer used in interstate commerce or communications, knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command to a computer or computer system if:
(I) the person causing the transmission intends that such transmission will -
(I) damage, or cause damage to, a computer, computer system, network, information, data, or program; or
(II) withhold or deny, or cause the withholding or denial, of the use of a computer, computer services, systems or network, information, data or program."

It can't be any clearer than that.  Blue Fog is using YOUR computer as part of their DDOS.  It's illegal.

And guess what.  Blue Fog doesn't give a fuck that they are having you break the law because THEY are sitting in Israel where they can't be touched, with a great wodge of VC cash, laughing all the way to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell is wrong with all of you Blue Frog lemmings? Don&#8217;t you CARE that you are doing something ILLEGAL?</p>
<p>If a telemarketer calls you, over and over, even if it&#8217;s collect and they somehow force you to accept the charges, you are not allowed to go to their home or office and trash the place.   You are not allowed to go to their home or office and throw a &#8220;take me off your list&#8221; note through their window.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if you throw only one note per call you&#8217;ve received.  And if you do it as part of a mob, each throwing one note per call through their window, and you damage their house, or make it impossible for  others to get in or out of the building, guess what?  <b>You</b> have broken the law.   </p>
<p>Now in the case of Blue Fog, you bet that what you are taking part in is a DDOS, and you bet that IT IS ILLEGAL!</p>
<p>Here is the Federal law making it illegal:</p>
<p>&#8220;Title 18 U.S.C. 1030(5)(A) states:</p>
<p>&#8220;through means of a computer used in interstate commerce or communications, knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command to a computer or computer system if:<br />
(I) the person causing the transmission intends that such transmission will -<br />
(I) damage, or cause damage to, a computer, computer system, network, information, data, or program; or<br />
(II) withhold or deny, or cause the withholding or denial, of the use of a computer, computer services, systems or network, information, data or program.&#8221;</p>
<p>It can&#8217;t be any clearer than that.  Blue Fog is using YOUR computer as part of their DDOS.  It&#8217;s illegal.</p>
<p>And guess what.  Blue Fog doesn&#8217;t give a fuck that they are having you break the law because THEY are sitting in Israel where they can&#8217;t be touched, with a great wodge of VC cash, laughing all the way to the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 14:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and there isn't any DDoS'n going on. 

That's a completely false view of what occurs.

1 spam = 1 complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and there isn&#8217;t any DDoS&#8217;n going on. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a completely false view of what occurs.</p>
<p>1 spam = 1 complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't let the nay sayers change your opinion of BlueFrog. Only people with limited intelligence will take this load of garbage for anything more than its worth.

Keep fighting the good fight, BlueSecurity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let the nay sayers change your opinion of BlueFrog. Only people with limited intelligence will take this load of garbage for anything more than its worth.</p>
<p>Keep fighting the good fight, BlueSecurity.</p>
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		<title>By: Vres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 10:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sir are a moron of the highest proportion.

Maybe you should check some facts before you try to be a "reporter" 

I have neither the time or the inclination to show  you the error of your ways, but I'm sure many will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sir are a moron of the highest proportion.</p>
<p>Maybe you should check some facts before you try to be a &#8220;reporter&#8221; </p>
<p>I have neither the time or the inclination to show  you the error of your ways, but I&#8217;m sure many will.</p>
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