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	<title>Comments on: Blue Frog:  Blue Security Brings Us Yet Another Abusive DDOS &#8220;Anti-Spam&#8221; Program</title>
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		<title>By: RealityBites</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-blue-security-brings-us-yet-another-abusive-ddos-anti-spam-program/#comment-1074346</link>
		<dc:creator>RealityBites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from your article it's pretty easy to see you are a not bright. Losers like you need an education not a website. What's your bright idea to stop the spammers. I have an answer... kill the pricks then their spam dies with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from your article it&#8217;s pretty easy to see you are a not bright. Losers like you need an education not a website. What&#8217;s your bright idea to stop the spammers. I have an answer&#8230; kill the pricks then their spam dies with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-blue-security-brings-us-yet-another-abusive-ddos-anti-spam-program/#comment-7939</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If a telemarketer calls you, over and over, even if itâ€™s collect and they somehow force you to accept the charges, you are not allowed to go to their home or office and trash the place. You are not allowed to go to their home or office and throw a â€œtake me off your listâ€? note through their window."

It doesn't matter if I'm allowed to do those things; that's not what BlueFrog is doing.  It's the equivalent of me calling the telemarketer back and screaming "STOP CALLING ME!"  Oh, and everyone else the TM called all day long would also call back and scream a bit.  Fair enough, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a telemarketer calls you, over and over, even if itâ€™s collect and they somehow force you to accept the charges, you are not allowed to go to their home or office and trash the place. You are not allowed to go to their home or office and throw a â€œtake me off your listâ€? note through their window.&#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter if I&#8217;m allowed to do those things; that&#8217;s not what BlueFrog is doing.  It&#8217;s the equivalent of me calling the telemarketer back and screaming &#8220;STOP CALLING ME!&#8221;  Oh, and everyone else the TM called all day long would also call back and scream a bit.  Fair enough, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-blue-security-brings-us-yet-another-abusive-ddos-anti-spam-program/#comment-4768</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't been able to get onto Blue Frog for a while - they were under attack themselves. I quite like the idea of fighting spam....even the reports I sent in were bouncing. I think there's a disgruntled spammer out there, my email address was reported to Yahoo, even though it's not a Yahoo email account!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been able to get onto Blue Frog for a while - they were under attack themselves. I quite like the idea of fighting spam&#8230;.even the reports I sent in were bouncing. I think there&#8217;s a disgruntled spammer out there, my email address was reported to Yahoo, even though it&#8217;s not a Yahoo email account!</p>
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		<title>By: horsie890</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-blue-security-brings-us-yet-another-abusive-ddos-anti-spam-program/#comment-4726</link>
		<dc:creator>horsie890</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either you have had a bad experience with Blue Frog Security, or you are just really bored. Are you even READING your comments on this? I suggest you do, because for every one I've seen, people are saying that BFS is a good thing. And do you know why? Because contrary to popular belief, many people ARE smart.
You're just not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either you have had a bad experience with Blue Frog Security, or you are just really bored. Are you even READING your comments on this? I suggest you do, because for every one I&#8217;ve seen, people are saying that BFS is a good thing. And do you know why? Because contrary to popular belief, many people ARE smart.<br />
You&#8217;re just not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ballegator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ballegator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 22:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's wrong to fight abuse with the same abuse?  I'm just not sure that's what happening.  I'm not 'abusing' anyone.  I'm fighting back.  I liken it to someone breaking into my home and pointing a gun at me.  If I so choose, I can pick up a gun and point it back.  I can also shoot at this person if they start shooting at me.  Are you saying that I am wrong to do that?

The fact of the matter is that these SPAMMERS have to learn a lesson, and no one else out there is teaching it.  Unless some other bad issues come out about Blue Frog, I applaud their attempts to get these damn spammers out of business and out of my inbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s wrong to fight abuse with the same abuse?  I&#8217;m just not sure that&#8217;s what happening.  I&#8217;m not &#8216;abusing&#8217; anyone.  I&#8217;m fighting back.  I liken it to someone breaking into my home and pointing a gun at me.  If I so choose, I can pick up a gun and point it back.  I can also shoot at this person if they start shooting at me.  Are you saying that I am wrong to do that?</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that these SPAMMERS have to learn a lesson, and no one else out there is teaching it.  Unless some other bad issues come out about Blue Frog, I applaud their attempts to get these damn spammers out of business and out of my inbox.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniella</title>
		<link>http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/blue-frog-blue-security-brings-us-yet-another-abusive-ddos-anti-spam-program/#comment-4494</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 21:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueFrog is down at the moment. Anyone know what is happening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlueFrog is down at the moment. Anyone know what is happening?</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More shite!
'A suitable metaphor would be that no matter how evil your enemy a shoot out in a urban area will draw innocent people into the fray.'
Click! click! BOOM!
Or!... "I say! It's an awfully bad sheew sending all this hate mail! Pleeese stop sir!"
Automated spam deserves automated replys without any warning.
Americans are always to much or not enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More shite!<br />
&#8216;A suitable metaphor would be that no matter how evil your enemy a shoot out in a urban area will draw innocent people into the fray.&#8217;<br />
Click! click! BOOM!<br />
Or!&#8230; &#8220;I say! It&#8217;s an awfully bad sheew sending all this hate mail! Pleeese stop sir!&#8221;<br />
Automated spam deserves automated replys without any warning.<br />
Americans are always to much or not enough.</p>
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		<title>By: mf</title>
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		<dc:creator>mf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 12:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the total cost of spam to businesses all over the world runs into billions of dollars, I can't understand why the governments of the world don't organise something like this.

After all, governments are imune from accusations of the "two wrongs don't make a right" variety - otherwise they wouldn't have the power to imprison kidnappers, fine thieves or execute murderers.

Why is it that governments appear not to think twice before invading other countries or bombing innocent women and children but when Denial of Service is mentioned they suddenly acquire morality?

By the way, even if innocent webservers were hit, surely this would only last until the offending site was removed and the DNS records updated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the total cost of spam to businesses all over the world runs into billions of dollars, I can&#8217;t understand why the governments of the world don&#8217;t organise something like this.</p>
<p>After all, governments are imune from accusations of the &#8220;two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right&#8221; variety - otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t have the power to imprison kidnappers, fine thieves or execute murderers.</p>
<p>Why is it that governments appear not to think twice before invading other countries or bombing innocent women and children but when Denial of Service is mentioned they suddenly acquire morality?</p>
<p>By the way, even if innocent webservers were hit, surely this would only last until the offending site was removed and the DNS records updated?</p>
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		<title>By: tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 10:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better than attacking than a pre-emptive strike though right?.

And personally I LIKE that my computer is being used to send a vicious message out to unsecure servers - LIKE I CARE AT ALL if they are unknowningly hosting a spammer, its not my damn job to suffer spam because they don't know... bombs away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better than attacking than a pre-emptive strike though right?.</p>
<p>And personally I LIKE that my computer is being used to send a vicious message out to unsecure servers - LIKE I CARE AT ALL if they are unknowningly hosting a spammer, its not my damn job to suffer spam because they don&#8217;t know&#8230; bombs away!</p>
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		<title>By: James Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 05:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with DOS attacks is that they draw innocent people into them ie anyone who shares the server being DOS attacked, not to mention all the bandwidth globally being eaten up by the attack. 

A suitable metaphor would be that no matter how evil your enemy a shoot out in a urban area will draw innocent people into the fray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with DOS attacks is that they draw innocent people into them ie anyone who shares the server being DOS attacked, not to mention all the bandwidth globally being eaten up by the attack. </p>
<p>A suitable metaphor would be that no matter how evil your enemy a shoot out in a urban area will draw innocent people into the fray.</p>
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