Comments on: As Apple and Intel Get in Bed to Create a New Apple Intel Machine, is Linux Left Out in the Cold? http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/as-apple-and-intel-get-in-bed-to-create-a-new-apple-intel-machine-is-linux-left-out-in-the-cold/ Internet Safety, Windows Updates, Internet News, and More Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:26:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Kelson http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/as-apple-and-intel-get-in-bed-to-create-a-new-apple-intel-machine-is-linux-left-out-in-the-cold/#comment-1984 Kelson Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:52:56 +0000 /?p=708#comment-1984 As I said, they aren't <b>admitting</b> to planning to make it possible to install Mac OS on a Dell, HP, or some random PC slapped together out of spare parts. <blockquote>After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that." However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. <b>"We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac,"</b> he said. <i>[emphasis added]</i></blockquote> Source: <a href="http://news.com.com/Apple+throws+the+switch%2C+aligns+with+Intel+-+page+2/2100-7341_3-5733756-2.html?tag=st.next">CNET: Apple throws the switch, aligns with Intel</a>. As I said, they aren’t admitting to planning to make it possible to install Mac OS on a Dell, HP, or some random PC slapped together out of spare parts.

After Jobs’ presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. “That doesn’t preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will,” he said. “We won’t do anything to preclude that.”

However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers’ hardware. “We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac,” he said. [emphasis added]

Source: CNET: Apple throws the switch, aligns with Intel.

]]> By: Just Some Guy http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/as-apple-and-intel-get-in-bed-to-create-a-new-apple-intel-machine-is-linux-left-out-in-the-cold/#comment-1981 Just Some Guy Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:55:31 +0000 /?p=708#comment-1981 Kelson states that Apple isn't planning on letting OS X run on commodity PCs. This appears incorrect. I can only point to the x86 releases of Darwin and OpenDarwin going back as far as 2003. Sources; http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ http://www.opendarwin.org/ Kelson states that Apple isn’t planning on letting OS X run on commodity PCs. This appears incorrect. I can only point to the x86 releases of Darwin and OpenDarwin going back as far as 2003.

Sources;
http://developer.apple.com/darwin/
http://www.opendarwin.org/

]]> By: Kelson http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/as-apple-and-intel-get-in-bed-to-create-a-new-apple-intel-machine-is-linux-left-out-in-the-cold/#comment-1978 Kelson Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:49:06 +0000 /?p=708#comment-1978 I don't buy it either. I heard a lot of the same arguments back when Mac OS X came out. Finally, a user-friendly Unix! Who will want to bother with Linux now? The thing is, people use Linux for lots of reasons, and the fact that it's a Unix variant that runs on x86 hardware is only one of them. Add in the fact that Apple doesn't plan (or at least doesn't admit to planning) to let OS X run on commodity PCs, you'll still need to buy an actual Mac, not just a beige box and a copy of Mac OS. Until the hardware is <em>completely</em> interchangeable, I wouldn't expect the common processor to make much difference. Aside from the potential for emulating Windows on Mac, it will probably matter more that the CPU is different from the one in older Macs than that it is the same as in Windows PCs. I don’t buy it either. I heard a lot of the same arguments back when Mac OS X came out. Finally, a user-friendly Unix! Who will want to bother with Linux now? The thing is, people use Linux for lots of reasons, and the fact that it’s a Unix variant that runs on x86 hardware is only one of them.

Add in the fact that Apple doesn’t plan (or at least doesn’t admit to planning) to let OS X run on commodity PCs, you’ll still need to buy an actual Mac, not just a beige box and a copy of Mac OS. Until the hardware is completely interchangeable, I wouldn’t expect the common processor to make much difference.

Aside from the potential for emulating Windows on Mac, it will probably matter more that the CPU is different from the one in older Macs than that it is the same as in Windows PCs.

]]> By: anonymoose http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/as-apple-and-intel-get-in-bed-to-create-a-new-apple-intel-machine-is-linux-left-out-in-the-cold/#comment-1968 anonymoose Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:41:40 +0000 /?p=708#comment-1968 ...and until there's an end-user-friendly UI on top of Linux -- one which doesn't look & feel exactly like Windows, but with different bugs -- the whole Linux desktop discussion is immaterial anyway. The open source community is good at a lot of things, but funding deep user interaction research isn't one of them. …and until there’s an end-user-friendly UI on top of Linux — one which doesn’t look & feel exactly like Windows, but with different bugs — the whole Linux desktop discussion is immaterial anyway. The open source community is good at a lot of things, but funding deep user interaction research isn’t one of them.

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