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	<title>Comments on: Are You an Ameritrade Customer?  Ralph Lauren?  LexisNexis?   If So You Could Become a Victim of Identity Theft</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight:  You want to use modern technology to communicate stock trades over the internet, but you don't expect that you'll have to take some kind of control over your personal information to avoid fraud?

If this is the case, I'm actually amazed that you've been able to stumble your way through life long enough to save enough money to invest on Ameritrade.  

Liability belongs with BOTH Ameritrade and the customer.  If you refuse to give them your SSN, what happens?  Are you unable to trade stocks?  Nope!

You can request a new identity number that is NOT your SSN that is specifically for your stock account, but this takes time and is inconvenient.

Wah.

Did any of you actually understand what the SS in SSN means?  If you aren't dealing with the Social Security office, then why did you give them your number?  

Me?  I don't care.  I'm more likely to get hit by a car than hit by fraud due to Ameritrade losing proprietary data.

Guess where identity fraud comes from.  You know those funny white slips of paper that you give to merchant when you sign for dinner, beer, or diapers?

Yeah, them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight:  You want to use modern technology to communicate stock trades over the internet, but you don&#8217;t expect that you&#8217;ll have to take some kind of control over your personal information to avoid fraud?</p>
<p>If this is the case, I&#8217;m actually amazed that you&#8217;ve been able to stumble your way through life long enough to save enough money to invest on Ameritrade.  </p>
<p>Liability belongs with BOTH Ameritrade and the customer.  If you refuse to give them your SSN, what happens?  Are you unable to trade stocks?  Nope!</p>
<p>You can request a new identity number that is NOT your SSN that is specifically for your stock account, but this takes time and is inconvenient.</p>
<p>Wah.</p>
<p>Did any of you actually understand what the SS in SSN means?  If you aren&#8217;t dealing with the Social Security office, then why did you give them your number?  </p>
<p>Me?  I don&#8217;t care.  I&#8217;m more likely to get hit by a car than hit by fraud due to Ameritrade losing proprietary data.</p>
<p>Guess where identity fraud comes from.  You know those funny white slips of paper that you give to merchant when you sign for dinner, beer, or diapers?</p>
<p>Yeah, them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 03:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can't our fingerprints be tied to new forms of identification that use strong encryption?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t our fingerprints be tied to new forms of identification that use strong encryption?</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For any educated person in this country, you should know that the "free credit report" has not been become full force throughout the US.  And guess what, I live in that area that doesn't receive the "free credit report".  Also, I am now going to be warned by email, phone, and written documentation throughout the entire one year by the company that Ameritrade contracted to monitor my credit - because they lost my backup tape.  Be sure to tell all your fellow Ameritrade clients about this small piece of mind that they are entitled to have as a result of Ameritrade's poor security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any educated person in this country, you should know that the &#8220;free credit report&#8221; has not been become full force throughout the US.  And guess what, I live in that area that doesn&#8217;t receive the &#8220;free credit report&#8221;.  Also, I am now going to be warned by email, phone, and written documentation throughout the entire one year by the company that Ameritrade contracted to monitor my credit - because they lost my backup tape.  Be sure to tell all your fellow Ameritrade clients about this small piece of mind that they are entitled to have as a result of Ameritrade&#8217;s poor security.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Larry (Cottingham)! Putting liability where it belongs is the only way to control this now. And I mean fines/damages with TEETH, not just a slap on the wrist. Corporate America has shown over time that loss of revenue is the only thing they respond to. So, let's get 'em RESPONDING, shall we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Larry (Cottingham)! Putting liability where it belongs is the only way to control this now. And I mean fines/damages with TEETH, not just a slap on the wrist. Corporate America has shown over time that loss of revenue is the only thing they respond to. So, let&#8217;s get &#8216;em RESPONDING, shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Cottingham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Cottingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me?? "people need to start taking much more responsibility for the protection of their own personal data, like social security numbers and credit card information."  How did this become my responsibility, when every credit card company, lender, bank, employer, broker and doctor's office in the country demand your SS# before they will do business with you? To paraphrase an old song, "It's too late baby!!" My SS# is out there, and it is being sold and passed around like the commodity it has become. As long as companies can make money by selling your personal data, this exposure to fraud will exist.

The only way to curtail it is to make each and every business that has your SS# responsible to maintain your security, and make them pay damages when they fail to do so. Businesses will only respond when it hurts them financially if they don't respond. The worst offenders are the big credit agencies. As the Equifax debacle clearly demonstrated, they only care about making a buck. Sell your personal data to a bunch of thieves? Heck, the thieves paid Equifax, why should they care?? Now if Equifax had to guarantee the credit rating of evey individual whose data they sold, and make restitution for fraud, then maybe they would exercise a little more care with your data.

We can't turn back the clock, and make sure everyone erases any and all of your personal data that they may have. That is the only way I could accept responsibility for my SS# now. Instead, we have to recognize the extent of the problem that currently exists, and it is enormous, and move forward with solutions that put the responsibility and the burden of the costs where they belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me?? &#8220;people need to start taking much more responsibility for the protection of their own personal data, like social security numbers and credit card information.&#8221;  How did this become my responsibility, when every credit card company, lender, bank, employer, broker and doctor&#8217;s office in the country demand your SS# before they will do business with you? To paraphrase an old song, &#8220;It&#8217;s too late baby!!&#8221; My SS# is out there, and it is being sold and passed around like the commodity it has become. As long as companies can make money by selling your personal data, this exposure to fraud will exist.</p>
<p>The only way to curtail it is to make each and every business that has your SS# responsible to maintain your security, and make them pay damages when they fail to do so. Businesses will only respond when it hurts them financially if they don&#8217;t respond. The worst offenders are the big credit agencies. As the Equifax debacle clearly demonstrated, they only care about making a buck. Sell your personal data to a bunch of thieves? Heck, the thieves paid Equifax, why should they care?? Now if Equifax had to guarantee the credit rating of evey individual whose data they sold, and make restitution for fraud, then maybe they would exercise a little more care with your data.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t turn back the clock, and make sure everyone erases any and all of your personal data that they may have. That is the only way I could accept responsibility for my SS# now. Instead, we have to recognize the extent of the problem that currently exists, and it is enormous, and move forward with solutions that put the responsibility and the burden of the costs where they belong.</p>
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		<title>By: ScanIAm</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScanIAm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have got to be kidding me.  Somebody made a mistake?  Information was lost?  Something isn't perfect?  Man, that never happens in any other industry.  Wow, you are definitely not overreacting.  Geez.

First, these companies are REQUIRED BY LAW to store their data offsite in the case of emergency.  The fact that this data was lost is not suprising nor should it be.  Data, personal and otherwise, has been lost with regularity since man has learned how to write.  

Second, the bigger stink you and others make out of this, the more likely that companies will attempt to hide the problem.  If all 200,000 Ameritrade customers got a "$119 credit agency report", you can be sure that Ameritrade would never "lose data" ever again.  As far as you knew.

Finally, what is a $119 credit agency report?  Credit reports are free, now, BY LAW.  Here's a better idea.  Call TRW, Equifax, and Experian and have them put a note on your credit report stating that your data was stolen and to look out for fraud.  Simple, useful, and free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have got to be kidding me.  Somebody made a mistake?  Information was lost?  Something isn&#8217;t perfect?  Man, that never happens in any other industry.  Wow, you are definitely not overreacting.  Geez.</p>
<p>First, these companies are REQUIRED BY LAW to store their data offsite in the case of emergency.  The fact that this data was lost is not suprising nor should it be.  Data, personal and otherwise, has been lost with regularity since man has learned how to write.  </p>
<p>Second, the bigger stink you and others make out of this, the more likely that companies will attempt to hide the problem.  If all 200,000 Ameritrade customers got a &#8220;$119 credit agency report&#8221;, you can be sure that Ameritrade would never &#8220;lose data&#8221; ever again.  As far as you knew.</p>
<p>Finally, what is a $119 credit agency report?  Credit reports are free, now, BY LAW.  Here&#8217;s a better idea.  Call TRW, Equifax, and Experian and have them put a note on your credit report stating that your data was stolen and to look out for fraud.  Simple, useful, and free.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the Ameritrade customers.  They notified me via mail April 19th, almost two months after the tape disappeared.  I called their facility and demanded that they pay for a Credit Reporting Agency for at least one year.  I told them to notify me as soon as they "find" the missing tape.  The company complied and I now am benefiting from a $119 Credit Agency report for 1 year.  I also put them on notice that I hold them responsible for mishandling my personal data, and I am appalled at how they took so long to notify me when they have my phone number, email address, and home address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the Ameritrade customers.  They notified me via mail April 19th, almost two months after the tape disappeared.  I called their facility and demanded that they pay for a Credit Reporting Agency for at least one year.  I told them to notify me as soon as they &#8220;find&#8221; the missing tape.  The company complied and I now am benefiting from a $119 Credit Agency report for 1 year.  I also put them on notice that I hold them responsible for mishandling my personal data, and I am appalled at how they took so long to notify me when they have my phone number, email address, and home address.</p>
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